Thursday, June 19, 2014

Amnesty Argument with Comments

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Let’s Deal With Reality and Pass Immigration Reform


Radio show hosts and political pundits are suggesting that the primary election defeat of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor is the final nail in the coffin for passing immigration reform in this session of Congress. They surmise that other Republicans will be especially reluctant to tackle the issue for fear of losing political support.

If we are led to believe that the results of a local election with 12 percent voter turnout in a single congressional district (one out of 435) with a mere 65,000 votes cast is all that it takes to disrupt a necessary and important national policy debate, then America is in big trouble—not just on this issue, but on a whole range of issues.

I certainly hope that is not the case.


As a Republican, it’s my view that efforts to complete immigration reform should be led by our party. Some on the outer fringes of the GOP may disagree, but the truth is we are humans first and partisans second. Frankly, the Democrats don’t have a monopoly on having hearts.

While I do not practice or promote illegal behavior, the reality is that 11 million illegal immigrants are currently in this country. Let’s face it, the United States does not have a process—real or imaginable—to deport 11 million people from within our borders. Those who favor the deportation of every person here illegally must understand that this position simply is not realistic. There is no wave of a magic wand that could accomplish such a task. 

Nor should there be.

[Fact: Ike, Republican President Eisenhower and Democrat President Truman used Border Guards, Local and State Law Enforcement to deport 2.3 Million illegals to save American jobs:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Dwight_Eisenhower_Immigration.htm

Democrat President Truman deported 3.4 Million illegal immigrants, saying
"Everyone suffers from the presence of these illegal immigrants in the community.":

http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Harry_S_Truman_Immigration.htm ]


Most of the immigrants who are here illegally came for the same reason as those who are here legally—a chance to make a better life for themselves and their families. They came heeding the famous words of poet Emma Lazarus that have welcomed generations of immigrants, including my parents, to the United States as they pass the Statue of Liberty and her golden torch: “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free … Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me.”

Poll after poll shows the majority of Americans support immigration reform, including a pathway to citizenship. 

[Recent Rasmussen Poll: Majority of Americans Do Not Favor Higher Legal Immigration

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/poll-majority-americans-do-not-favor-higher-legal-immigration-recognize-current-levels ]


So, let’s put the political nitpicking aside and deal with the situation.

Let’s start by instituting a process in which all undocumented immigrants receive permits to legally work here. Let’s provide them with the opportunity to get driver’s licenses and bank accounts—simple things that we all take for granted. The immigrants here illegally need jobs, want to work and are willing to take on jobs that are not appealing to many Americans. Additionally, many of them are exploited because of their illegal status in this country.

Let’s also create a path to success for the 65,000 young people who graduate each year from high school and who, despite having been born in this country, find their path to college blocked by the “illegal immigrant” classification. We need more people in this country earning advanced degrees and putting that education to work here. As a businessman, I would certainly prefer that as opposed to educating them here and have them go somewhere else to compete against us.




Next, we need to develop some type of offsetting payment that these former migrants can make as compensation for being here illegally. Payment could be monetary or through service to the local community or country.

We also need more robust and effective measures to secure our borders and enforce our laws, so that we do not exacerbate the problem in the future.


Finally, with the exception of Native Americans, we are all immigrants or descendents of immigrants. Let us determine a long-term path to citizenship that is unambiguous. For us to do anything less would be a repudiation of the very foundation that has made America the world’s greatest melting pot.

Let’s not pretend, either, that every person here illegally is some malicious character with no regard for our laws.

[36,007 illegal immigrants charged with 88,000 crimes including kidnapping, murder and rape were released in 2013, while an American Combat Marine Veteran remains chained to a prison bed in Tiajuana: 

http://allenbwest.com/2014/05/us-marine-held-mexican-jail-36000-criminal-illegals-us-set-free/

In 2005, the US Government Accounting Office found 27% of inmates in prisons were non-citizens, most of them from Mexico, at a taxpayer cost of  $2.5 Billion a year:

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05337r.pdf ]

For instance, I am familiar with a situation in which a father brought his children to the United States and stayed here on a recurring visa. After many years, the father remarried and a son, who is more than 18 years old, is now considered to be here illegally. This young man has lived nearly every day of his life in the United States, but he is haunted by the prospect of being sent to a country whose customs and cultures he does not understand and whose language he does not speak. There must be innumerable cases like his.

My parents immigrated to the United States from Eastern and Northern Europe, and my siblings and I were born here. Had my parents brought me here as an undocumented infant, would I now be subject to deportation, even as a senior citizen? The thought of the traumatic impact that would have on my family is inconceivable to me—and I’m a wealthy man. It’s not realistic to think that deporting 11 million people wouldn’t have an even more devastating and heartbreaking effect on countless multi-generation families living here together.

As I said at the beginning, I’m a law-abiding citizen, and I am certainly not advocating any type of illegal action. I am, though, advocating a dose of reality for those who use 11 million people for political gamesmanship.

If you are an American citizen, the chances are it’s because someone in your family came to the United States in pursuit of a better life for themselves and their descendants. 

Generations of immigrants came here and became productive and respected citizens, with many giving their lives to protect this country. 

Let’s reassure all of those who came before us and are now looking down from above that the principles undergirding America’s foundations live on. Let’s not close the door on those “yearning to breathe free.”




Sheldon Adelson is chairman and CEO of Las Vegas Sands Corp.






  • More ANTI-AMERICAN U.S. SOVEREIGNTY, and ANTI-AMERICAN U.S. CITIZEN PROPAGANDA. Trying to convince the American U.S. citizens, the victims of this TREASON at our borders, being 100% facilitated by our CORRUPT GOVERNMENT on all levels is good for us.
    We don't need NEW IMMIGRATION LAWS. We need a NEW U.S. GOVERNMENT that will put our U.S. MILITARY on our borders, and stop this TREASON.
    The average American knows how to stop this ILLEGAL ALIEN INVASION, with FORCE. But, we know the rich only care about one thing, GETTING RICHER with MASS ILLEGAL & LEGAL CHEAP FOREIGN LABOR, while they decimate our once great United States. BS.








    "Impracticable" to deport? More lies.
    President Obama has mobilized the military and opened military bases to help find and bus illegal immigrant children to their families in the US. He could just as easily mobilize the military to find illegal immigrants, photograph them and bus them home.
    Unemployed and underemployed citizens are very angry about the lies they hear every day from the political elite.
    Why do the political elite want to legalize millions to steal jobs and suppress wages of US citizens?








      Finally I hear some fight out of you. It is about time. Where were you 2 years ago? It is about time american workers got riled up.








      Adelson is coming at this from the ancient perspective that America is weak. The "process" is simple: If you come here illegally, you get nothing. Your can't go to our schools, you're not eligible for welfare or other benefits...you're on your own, in the shadows. If you hire illegal immigrants, you will be prosecuted fully.
      We can streamline our immigration system so those who want to come here don't need $10K and a lawyer for 5 years worth of "Maybes," but anyone who suggests amnesty/"pathways" are the only option have already conceded to a bigoted form of sympathy married to an ignorant brand of foresight - which when coupled, they pat themselves on the back for as they mistake each for "empathy."
      US borders are not open, and non-US citizens ARE capable of obeying our laws.
      Period.








        So what would you do with the 11 million already here?








          Enforce e-verify, that will force them out.








          Make life so unprofitable and difficult they'll want to return. Remember, in 09 and 10 Mexico was complaining as the unskilled were coming back to their country for "lack of opportunity". Why should they get any opportunity (much less those handed to them like food stamps, section 8, etc that citizens or legal immigrants don't qualify for?) when their first act is a criminal action. Don't forget their loyalty is to their home country, not the US, so the first thing they do when they get here (other than take freebies and stand at the local Home Depot) is try to turn us into the sh*t hole they left from. Makes perfect sense, but you want to just give to them til it hurts. Well, it's hurting and you're still wanting us to give more when we don't even have enough for our own.








      What law was changed by Obama concerning these children?








        No law was changed - that's the problem. The Obama Administration is ignoring the law when his job is to enforce the law.
        Anyway, Obama can't change laws. However, he can be removed from office for not doing his sworn duty to enforce laws.








          Thats why they call him the deporter in chief. More deportations under Obama than Bush. Hmmm








            not according to the Border patrol Union -
            BORDER PATROL UNION OFFICIAL: BORDER 'MOST POROUS THAT IT’S EVER BEEN,' FED NUMBERS INACCURATE








            Big deal.
            I measure by what the president hasn't done.
            Obama hasn't done his job until every last illegal immigrant is deported.








            If he were really the "deporter-in-chief" that you claim he was, we wouldn't be having this problem at the border, but being the typical Obamabot, I guess you'll believe anything Obama says, like his claim "to be the most transparent administration in history," etc.








            That's an out and out lie. They count those, the first administration to do so, those they turn from the Mexico side of the border (those that fail to cross), and most of those deportation are from legal immigrants who want to go home (at our expense) because they don't want to live in such a lawless country (they can have that at home). The other point, do you expect an invading army to tell you truth about deportations? Why aren't those "refugees" being turned back? If you believe their numbers, then I have a pet rock (that match those in your head) to sell you.








        The edict he sent out saying he would not deport people under a certain age because they were brought here by their parents illegally and they should not be punished. The law gives not credence to how you got here but is all about are you here legally. Try again Tracey.








        DACA, Dreamers, Changing the Use of Force policies for border patrol agents, giving them desk jobs and diaper changing duties to help illegal mothers. Obama unilaterally does whatever he likes.








          Umm also more deportations than Bush or Clinton. Please go crawl in your racist hole








            Im sure if bush and Clinton counted border apprehensions as a deportation they would easily demolish obamas bogus deportation record.








            false -
            consider the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) report on year-end removal numbers for fiscal year 2013. ICE reported a total of 368,644 removals for the year (down considerably from the 409,949 removals reported the previous year).
            The ICE report noted that of those 368,644 removals, 235,093 (or nearly two-thirds) were carried out on individuals “apprehended while, or shortly after, attempting to illegally enter the United States.” This shows that while the Obama administration continues to deport illegal immigrants in large numbers, most of these removals do not constitute a “deportation” in the conventional sense.
            the Department of Homeland Security’s own guidelines distinguish between “removals” and “returns.” According to DHS, a removal is defined as “the compulsory and confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States based on an order of removal.”
            Returns, meanwhile, are defined as “the confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States not based on an order of removal. Most of the voluntary returns are of Mexican nationals who have been apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol and are returned to Mexico.” The primary difference between the two categories is that removals are processed by ICE, while returns are not.








            Get your facts, those numbers are not accurate.








        Laws schmaws- we don't need to follow no stinking laws!








    0Bama is extorting the USA to to pass amnesty. You don't negotiate with terrorists like 0Bama.
    Those republicans who support amnesty, are treasonous criminals.












  • Let's secure the border before we consider anything else. 18 votes

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