After losing market share, MTP replaced its liberal host with Independent Chuck Todd.
CHUCK TODD:
I think one of your
challenges though is a trust deficit that has been created over the last
18 months. I want to put up a graphic, whether you believe it's fair or
not, it is a fact about all the different sort of government gaps over
the last 18 months. Edward Snowden stealing NSA files, the VA faking
wait times, IRS losing emails, healthcare.gov doesn't launch.
[Benghazi, Sgt Tahmooressi in Mexican Jail]
[Benghazi, Sgt Tahmooressi in Mexican Jail]
The president himself
saying, "U.S. intelligence agencies underestimated ISIS." The DHS, the
border failure with that surge over the summer, sort of failure, and of
course, the secret service.
Why should we trust that what you're saying about the CDC is able to handle this? You understand why there's more skepticism than normal.
Why should we trust that what you're saying about the CDC is able to handle this? You understand why there's more skepticism than normal.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
It's classic. He's an
outsider, he says he's independent. And the fact that Pat Roberts
ignored all the warning, ignored what happened to Dick Lugar, you have
to live in the state. You have to have residency.
CHUCK TODD:
It's a minimum requirement?
(OVERTALK) [Yes]
ANDREA MITCHELL:
Talk about the hatred of Washington.
Meet the Press Transcript - October 5, 2014
MEET THE PRESS -- Sunday, October 5, 2014
CHUCK TODD:
This Sunday on Meet the Press, America is on edge. Ebola's been diagnosed on U.S. soil for the first time.
DR. IRWIN REDLENER:
The country is absolutely not ready for a large-scale epidemic.
CHUCK TODD:
The head of the secret service had to resign after a series of blunders that compromised the security of a president.
DAN BONGINO:
The secret service at this point needs someone to come in with a fresh set of eyes.
CHUCK TODD:
As our government got a
grip on all of these challenges facing the country. And can President
Obama keep his promise about combat troops?
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
I won't commit our troops to fighting another ground war in Iraq or in Syria.
CHUCK TODD:
We're going to hear from an Iraq War veteran who thinks he's already broken it.
CLAY HANNA:
The truth is that they are actively engaged in combat.
CHUCK TODD:
Plus, with less than a
month until the midterms, I'm gonna reveal some big new polls that may
be just what one party has been waiting to see. And I'm Chuck Todd. And
joining me to provide insight and analysis this morning are NBC's Joe
Scarborough; our chief foreign affairs correspondent here at NBC News,
Andrea Mitchell; host of PBS NewsHour, Gwen Ifill; and former senior
advisor to President Obama, David Axelrod. Welcome to Sunday. It's Meet
the Press.
ANNOUNCER:
From NBC News in Washington, this is Meet the Press with Chuck Todd.
CHUCK TODD:
There's a litany of
problems that the government and the American public are having to worry
about. The first case of Ebola in the United States. More revelations
about the secret service incompetence, and another horrific ISIS
beheading.
(BEGIN TAPE)
BRIAN WILLIAMS:
The highest alert. The CDC has now increased the emergency response to the Ebola epidemic.
CHUCK TODD (V/O):
This outbreak is the
largest in history, causing the president to send U.S. military
personnel in an attempt to control the spread of the virus.
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
We have to act fast. We can't dawdle on this one.
CHUCK TODD (V/O):
Ebola. Just one of the frightening but true stories that have been seen on TV, newspapers and the internet.
LESTER HOLT:
It's an unbelievable scene as a man jumps over a fence.
CHUCK TODD (V/O):
A man able to penetrate one of the most protected places in the country.
KRISTEN WELKER:
No one has ever gotten all the way through the front door, just behind me.
SCOTT PELLEY:
Worse than we knew.
BRIAN WILLIAMS:
Turns out, he got deep inside the mansion before being stopped.
CHUCK TODD (V/O):
On Friday, another
beheading. Then, an email confirming that another American is being held
by ISIS. And a White House realizing they needed to reassure a
frightened public.
BRIAN WILLIAMS:
Ebola in the U.S.
DAVID MUIR:
The first confirmed case of Ebola.
SCOTT PELLEY:
A man in Texas has just been diagnosed with Ebola.
CHUCK TODD (V/O):
Because Ebola has left Africa and walked into a Dallas hospital.
LISA MONACO:
And that person is now being isolated and dealt with and significant contact tracing is being done.
(END TAPE)
CHUCK TODD:
Let's take a closer look
at the severity of the Ebola outbreak. The situation is dire in West
Africa, with Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone severely affected. The
Centers for Disease Control estimates 7,492 people have been infected,
and that 3,439 have lost their lives. But there are worries those
numbers could continue to skyrocket with the CDC laying out a worst-case
scenario, which could see 1.4 million infected by the end of the year.
Earlier this month,
President Obama told me that only the U.S. could lead the fight against
the virus. And more than 3,000 American troops are being deployed to
West Africa in order to help with these relief efforts and build
makeshift hospitals. But it's important to note only one case has been
diagnosed in the U.S. so far.
This week, Thomas Eric
Duncan tested positive in Dallas after traveling to the U.S. from
Liberia. His condition was downgraded yesterday from serious to
critical. And of course, here at NBC, we've been impacted. On Thursday,
Ashoka Mukpo, a freelance cameraman, who had been working with our chief
medical correspondent, Dr. Nancy Snyderman in Liberia, was diagnosed
with Ebola.
He's due to be flown
back for treatment in Nebraska. No one on the NBC crew with Dr. Nancy
Snyderman has shown any signs of infection. She of course will
quarantine herself for up to three weeks. I'm joined now by Dr. Tom
Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control. Dr. Frieden, welcome
to Meet the Press.
DR. TOM FRIEDEN:
Good morning.
CHUCK TODD:
Let me ask you this
morning what you can tell us about Mr. Duncan in Dallas. We understand
he's in critical, or I think now critical condition. What more do you
know?
DR. TOM FRIEDEN:
Well, just what you've
said. As we know, this is a serious illness, that the virus is very hard
to fight in individual patients. We know how to stop its spread in a
community. But for treatment of individual patients, the best care is
intensive, supportive care. And that's what's being done right now in
Dallas. And we really hope for his recovery. But we recognize that it is
a severe illness that does take far too many lives.
CHUCK TODD:
All right. Let's talk
about the response in Africa right now. It is still be described as an
exponential problem. So every infected person ends up infecting two more
people. So it is an exponential issue. How do you change the math? When
do you think you can change that math?
DR. TOM FRIEDEN:
Well, with President
Obama's decision to send the Department of Defense in to provide
critical support, they're already there on the ground, they're working
very effectively with our team, with other teams in the U.S. government
internationally. We're seeing a terrific international response as well.
Other countries are coming and helping.
But the virus moves
very, very fast. We're beginning to see some signs that the response is
getting more and more effective, for example, at making sure that people
aren't being exposed to patients who have died from Ebola and getting
safe removal of bodies. There's been progress on that in the past week,
and that's encouraging. But this is going to be a long, hard fight.
CHUCK TODD:
Let me ask you about
drugs. We know there are some experimental drugs. Some of them have been
used to deal with the early U.S. relief workers that got infected early
on during the beginning of this crisis. Is there signs of speeding up
that process so that these drugs are available faster, quicker, and
either to be used both in West Africa and anything we need here?
DR. TOM FRIEDEN:
The drug pipeline is
going to be slow, I'm afraid. The most promising drug, ZMapp, there's no
more of it, and it's hard to make. It takes months to make just a bit.
So many people are working on can that be accelerate. We're also looking
at vaccines. And there are a couple of promising vaccines that are
already in initial trials. And if those were available, we would be able
to use them for healthcare workers and potentially in other places, if
they work.
So we've got to figure
out as quickly as possible whether they work. But even without drugs or
vaccines, meticulous clinical care, just restoring the patient's fluid
balance can save a lot of lives. And in Africa, we're seeing some of
those makeshift hospitals providing that good fluid care that's doubling
survival rates there.
CHUCK TODD:
How do you calm
American fears here? Right now, the public we saw, we saw an airplane
sort of quarantined in Newark. You're now seeing hundreds of cases where
people are reporting potential symptoms that might be Ebola-related.
And frankly, we're getting close to causing a panic about this. How do
you stop that part of this virus?
DR. TOM FRIEDEN:
Well, it's really
understandable that people are scared. It's a deadly virus. But you have
to go back to basics. The bottom line here is we know how to stop it.
It's not going to spread widely in the U.S. for two basic reasons. We
can do infection control in hospitals and we can do public health
interventions that stop it in its tracks.
We do that by
identifying every possible contact, monitoring them for 21 days, and if
they get any symptoms, isolating and monitoring them as well. That's how
you stop Ebola. That's how we've stopped every outbreak. In fact, just
this past week, we reported on our experience helping Nigeria stop their
importation of Ebola.
CHUCK TODD:
Well, let me ask you
very quickly though. We've got flu seasons going to be coming up. Can
the U.S. healthcare system handle the incoming that if you mix sort of
fear about Ebola with your typical flu season, and people feeling sort
of similar issues, fever, stuff like that, are you worried about a crush
of the American healthcare system because of the Ebola fear mixed in
during flu season?
DR. TOM FRIEDEN:
I don't think we're
going to see a huge number of Ebola patients, or even concerns for Ebola
patients. It's great that we have an index of suspicion such that we
evaluate every person who has traveled and who might have it. And that's
what we expect to see. It's actually a good thing to see more concerns
so that we don't miss a patient and allow it to spread in a cluster in
this country.
What flu season will
hold, I don't know. It's a good time to get a flu shot. The only thing
you can predict about flu season is that it'll be here and we can't
predict what it'll be like. So very important to get a flu shot. That'll
reduce the burden both on you and on the healthcare system. But I think
our healthcare system certainly has challenges. But it can respond, it
has resilience, we have hardworking doctors and nurses, people running
the system. And we're going to learn from each experience and respond
even better next time.
CHUCK TODD:
All right, Dr. Frieden from the Centers for Disease Control, thanks for coming on Meet the Press.
DR. TOM FRIEDEN:
Thank you.
CHUCK TODD:
You got it. All right.
For more on the Ebola response, I'm joined now by Dan Pfeiffer, senior
advisor to President Obama. Dan, welcome back to Meet the Press.
DAN PFEIFFER:
Thanks for having me, Chuck.
CHUCK TODD:
Let's go to I think
with the White House's responsibility, which is sort of calming the
public's nerves. Is the administration considering stepped up tactics
here, possibly more aggressive screenings at airports? Something to
reassure the public that Ebola is going to have a hard time making it to
the United States?
DAN PFEIFFER:
With, I think the first
thing we need to do is make sure that the American people understand
how hard it is to contract Ebola, and to understand that there is no
country in the world better prepared than the United States to deal with
this. We have the best public health infrastructure and the best
doctors in the world. We've been preparing for this eventuality since
the outbreak in West Africa started seven months ago.
CHUCK TODD:
Why though, I guess go
back to the question. I understand about the outbreak, but are you going
to try to do more measures? I think this is a public that is very
fearful right now, because you say one thing here, and then all of a
sudden, Ebola walked into a Dallas hospital.
DAN PFEIFFER:
Well, I think we're
going to constantly evaluate all the measures we have in place. I think
it's important for people to understand that this outbreak's been
happening for seven months in West Africa, and this is the first time
someone has come to the United States. So we're prepared for this. But
we'll always be evaluating. The president's focused on this every day.
CHUCK TODD:
So you may do more?
DAN PFEIFFER:
No, I think we are
going to look and make sure everything is working. And if we see where
there are flaws in the system, where things don't work, we'll address
those. But we're very confident in the procedures we have in place. And
people should know that the president's focused on this every day. He's
briefed on it every day. He's in contact with Dr. Frieden, the CDC,
local officials in Dallas to make sure that every resource we need to
deal with it is being brought to bear here.
CHUCK TODD:
I think one of your
challenges though is a trust deficit that has been created over the last
18 months. I want to put up a graphic, whether you believe it's fair or
not, it is a fact about all the different sort of government gaps over
the last 18 months. Edward Snowden stealing NSA files, the VA faking
wait times, IRS losing emails, healthcare.gov doesn't launch.
The president himself
saying, "U.S. intelligence agencies underestimated ISIS." The DHS, the
border failure with that surge over the summer, sort of failure, and of
course, the secret service. Why should we trust that what you're saying
about the CDC is able to handle this? You understand why there's more
skepticism than normal.
DAN PFEIFFER:
Look, I do understand
that people have had a growing skepticism of institutions for a long
time, including government. But people should know that everyone in the
situations you mentioned, where a problem arises, we deal with it. We
deal with it quickly, we deal with it forcefully to make sure it doesn't
happen.
Let's take one example
that got a lot of attention over the summer, which is the surge at the
Southwestern border. That was a problem that came. We brought to bear
every resource possible to do it. And this month, crossings at the
borders are less than they were this time last year--
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
I understand that. And I'll give you, there always is a good reaction. Ebola needs to be pro-action.
DAN PFEIFFER:
Well, believe that's
exactly what we're doing. Which is why the only way to deal with this is
to stop it at its source. Which is why we're deploying around 3,000
troops there to bring to bear the--
CHUCK TODD:
Is that enough? Are we going to have more?
DAN PFEIFFER:
That is what the
Pentagon believes we need right now. And we'll constantly evaluate that.
But what we can do there is bring-- no one is better at command and
control logistics than the U.S. military. And they're going to make a
huge difference over there. It's going to take some time, it's going to
take a lot of work, but it's the right step to take.
CHUCK TODD:
I want to play you a
sound bite from Republican Senator Rand Paul about this military troop
issue, helping with Ebola. He's got a concern frankly that that's a way
for Ebola to affect the American military. Take a listen.
SEN. RAND PAUL (ON TAPE):
You also have to be
concerned about 3,000 soldiers getting back on a ship. Where is disease
most transmittable? When you're in very close confines on a ship. We all
know about cruises and how they get these diarrhea viruses that are
transmitted very easily and the whole ship gets sick. Can you imagine if
a whole ship full of our soldiers catch Ebola?
CHUCK TODD:
Fair concern?
DAN PFEIFFER:
It's a concern that is
being dealt with and we're prepared to deal with. People will be
screened appropriately, we'll make sure that doesn't happen.
CHUCK TODD:
Well, there's a lot of public officials that are skeptical and nervous about this. Do you think they've been acting responsibly?
DAN PFEIFFER:
I think that a lot of
people have been very responsible about this, about not raising
irrational fears and communicating information people need to know. I
think that's important and we appreciate that.
CHUCK TODD:
I'm going to shift to
the secret service here. When the White House decided, when the
president decided to hire Director Pierson, did you guys rush? Did you
vet her properly? Not necessarily on whether she had a good background
and a good HR file. But did you vet to see, was she up to the job? Or
did you rush?
DAN PFEIFFER:
No, we did not rush.
And she was someone with a 30-year record at the secret service.
Obviously, what had happened over the last several weeks here made it
clear we needed to take another direction. And we decided to do that,
and we're very pleased that--
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
Turned out she was the wrong hire, right?
DAN PFEIFFER:
Turned out we needed a
new direction. And Joe Clancy, someone who the president knows very
well, I know very well, is the exactly right person to come in on an
interim basis. He'll be here next week to begin dealing with whatever
situations may arrive in the secret service.
CHUCK TODD:
Is it time to hire an outsider?
DAN PFEIFFER:
I think we're going to
let Joe Clancy get there, look at it, begin to steer the agency in the
right direction, and we'll see who the right fit is.
CHUCK TODD:
I'll ask you about the
president's speech in Chicago this week. There's one way to read it is
that he was declaring victory here on his agenda, that he believes he's
got a successful-- is that a way to look at it? That basically it
worked? "Hey, my policies were right. Look at this. Everything is
great."
DAN PFEIFFER:
I don't think that's a
fair reading of the speech, though. The president was very clear that
while we have made significant progress to improve the economy, to build
a durable foundation for the economy going forward, job creation, auto
industry back, housing industry coming back. But he said very clearly
that we have more work to do because too much of the benefits of that
growth is not being showed broadly enough on the middle class.
CHUCK TODD:
He said, "We're better
off now than we were before." But the direction of the country, the
public, nearly 70% of the public thinks we're heading down the wrong--
(OVERTALK)
DAN PFEIFFER:
And I think you--
CHUCK TODD:
A big disconnect here.
DAN PFEIFFER:
I think it is very
clear, anyone who works in the economy knows we were losing hundreds of
thousands of jobs a month, we have now created more than ten million
private sector jobs. Every indicator is up significantly over the last
six years. But there is certainly more work to do. And that's a lot of
what this election is about, is a choice between Democrats and
Republicans, Republicans who are opposing the common-sense economic
policies we need to help the middle class.
CHUCK TODD:
Dan Pfeiffer, senior
advisor to President Obama, thanks for coming back here on Meet the
Press. Let's get some reaction now from our panel. Of course Joe
Scarborough, Andrea Mitchell, Gwen Ifill, David Axelrod. Joe, let's go
to Ebola. You had some pretty tough words on Friday about government
response and your own personal concerns. What you've heard from Dr.
Frieden and Dan Pfeiffer, you feel any better than you did Friday?
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
No, I don't feel
better. And I don't think most Americans feel better. You have everybody
saying, "Hey, let's stay calm." That's what the World Health
Organization said back in the spring when this broke out. And then they
said, "Let's stay calm," when the head of Doctors without Borders, as
The Washington Post reported this morning, went to them in late July and
said, "This is a crisis." They said, "You're panicking, you're
panicking."
And we're hearing the
same thing now. Let's look at it. The World Health Organization has been
dismal. They've ignored all of the warning signs. And then the African
countries, the governments there have failed miserably. And right now, a
lot of Americans are seeing what happened in Dallas and looking at your
laundry list, what happened with the secret service, what happened with
the IRS, what happened with the VA, what happened with ISIS being a JV
team. So when anybody, any member of the government says, "Hey, just
relax, everything's going to be okay," Americans don't believe that.
CHUCK TODD:
Andrea?
ANDREA MITCHELL:
And in fact, it's that
laundry list, it's more and worse here, because in Dallas, look what
happened. The man comes into the ER, he tells a nurse he was in West
Africa, in Liberia, they initially blame it on a computer system where
the nurse doesn't call the ER doctor.
CHUCK TODD:
I know, the system broke.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
Now they acknowledge it
wasn't the computer system at all, that the doctor on the case had the
same information. People are not communicating. And this is after we
were told by the government, by the CDC, by the White House, that
doctors and hospitals around the country were prepared.
One thing now though,
they now begin to realize that I'm told by sources that they are now
going to consider strongly having screening. And they don't have the
personnel. CDC doesn't have the personnel. But they now believe if they
go to a small number, four main airports, they can get about 75% of the
people coming in.
CHUCK TODD:
JFK, Dulles, O'Hare, Newark.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
Newark.
CHUCK TODD:
Those four airports, they can hit 75% of the incoming West Africans traveling.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
You cannot trust people to believe to be asked a questionnaire at the port of departure in Africa.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
But wait, if you have a
six year old daughter, and you're in West Africa, and you think she may
have Ebola, are you going to answer the question honestly?
ANDREA MITCHELL:
Absolutely.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
Are you going to come to the United States? I'm coming to the United States to try to save my daughter's life.
GWEN IFILL:
I think we have a
couple of different questions here. One is that the set of systems broke
down. And it's clear that you can look at isolated systems and say they
broke down. It's one thing for the U.S. to say, "We're going to send
all of these mobile military hospitals to set up in Monrovia." But it
turns out, there's no infrastructure there to get them set up.
There are systems that
break down. But the question you're asking is whether, it's the term
that Dr. Frieden used, the index of suspicion, whether that expands to
everything. I don't know that Americans turn and automatically look to
their government and say, "Fix this," the way we think they do. If
they're suspicious of government in all these other ways, and they also
are expecting government to have--
CHUCK TODD:
Yeah, well, they're suspicious--
GWEN IFILL:
Let me just, let's test
one thing. One case of Ebola in the United States, right? One. 3,000
people dead in West Africa, which we weren't talking about last week. So
all of a sudden, we are panicked.
CHUCK TODD:
And by the way, every warning case, every ca--
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
Well, and obviously we have a math issue.
GWEN IFILL:
One case is a tipping point?
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
And everyone is connected.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
I'm sorry. It's going
to such a level in West Africa, that now is when you would start to. As
Kent Brantly said, a guy who knows something about this, because he had
it, said, "This is a fire from hell. And if you think that the Atlantic
Ocean is going to stop it from coming over here, you're kidding
yourself."
CHUCK TODD:
But David, you're--
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
--want to disagree with Dr. Scarborough, but--
(OVERTALK)
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
David, that's an understatement.
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
Okay, okay, okay gang. Gentlemen, let's give each other--
DAVID AXELROD:
Tom Frieden, Tony Fauci
at the NIH, these are public health professionals of world-class
standing. They have no motivation to mislead the American people.
They've dealt with many epidemics before many health issues before. I
don't think there's a reason to believe that they're not doing what
needs to be done. And I will say this about the jaundice issue.
I sat on this very set,
it wasn't as nice, but in the spring of 2010, and we talked about the
oil leak in the Gulf. And everyone said, "This is Obama's Katrina.
Things are out of control. The government's broken down." It wasn't even
mentioned in the 2012 election, because ultimately it was dealt with.
So I suggest we look back six months from now and review this
discussion.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
No I understand.
DAVID AXELROD:
And I suspect that we're going to say is, "Gee, that wasn't what we thought it was."
CHUCK TODD:
But David, the problem for the White House right now is they have to make sure people don't panic.
DAVID AXELROD:
Right.
CHUCK TODD:
Because we can't have
our public health facilities flooded. I brought up flu season for a
reason, because the symptoms are almost identical. And we could see a
total crush on that system.
(OVERTALK)
GWEN IFILL:
But what is our responsibility in creating and fomenting--
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
Well, that's, I--
ANDREA MITCHELL:
But the government--
(OVERTALK)
DAVID AXELROD:
What the
responsibilities are with asking questions. And I understand the Dr.
Scarborough comment. I'll be really honest with you.
CHUCK TODD:
It's not--
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
This is a serious issue. I'm quoting people that have Ebola, that have spent time in West Africa--
(OVERTALK)
DAVID AXELROD:
People like you and people like us go on television and say, "This is far worse than they're saying, this is a reason to get--"
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
I'm not saying that.
DAVID AXELROD:
"This is a reason to be--"
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
I'm not saying that.
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
Okay guys.
(OVERTALK)
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
You're hearing things I haven't said, David--
DAVID AXELROD:
Then people respond to it.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
What I was saying is, we have to ask tough questions.
CHUCK TODD:
I've got to hit the pause button, Joe.
(OVERTALK)
DAVID AXELROD:
--actually, I thought he did a pretty good job.
CHUCK TODD:
Let's do the pause button, because you guys have plenty. We're going to come back. We can continue this discussion.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
Chuck, we're trying to help.
CHUCK TODD:
All four of you. I hear
you, I hear you. You're doing great here. But I've got a few other
guests here I want to talk to. In fact, when we come back, I've got the
head of the Republican National Committee here, Reince Priebus, who's
been I think amused by this back and forth. I'm going to ask him the
reasons why we're not seeing signs of a wave for the GOP. Is it because
his party doesn't have a coherent message? We'll be back in a minute.
***Commercial Break***
CHUCK TODD:
And welcome back.
Republicans are hoping for a Beach Boys kind of November. Catch a wave
and you're sitting on top of the world. But so far, that wave not really
in sight. On Thursday, my next guest, Reince Priebus, played out what
he called the GOP's principles for American renewal ahead of the
midterms. But those principles are nothing like the clear message the
party offered in 1994, when Newt Gingrich's Contract with America led to
a Republican sweep. Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National
Committee, welcome back to Meet the Press.
REINCE PRIEBUS:
Hey Chuck, good morning.
CHUCK TODD:
I want to talk about
your principles here. They sound great. In fact, Karl Rove said it was
very well poll-tested language. Preserve, value, and honor the
constitution, grow the economy, balance budget amendment, healthcare
reform, improve veterans’ access to healthcare, strong military, equal
educational opportunity, improve the job market, value family life,
religious liberty, hard work, energy independence, immigration including
secure borders and uphold the law. Very agreeable language. I don't
think anybody, including some Democrats would disagree. But there's no
policy here. No policy connected to this. Why?
REINCE PRIEBUS:
Actually, it's not
true. We call for a balanced budget amendment, that's policy. We call
for school choice, that's policy. We call for the president adhering to
the constitution and not violating the law and not abiding by what we
call the Separation of Powers Act in the constitution. I think if you go
back and look at the Contract with America, you'll see it'll say
welfare reform--
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
Oh, the Contract with America, I've got it here.
(OVERTALK)
REINCE PRIEBUS:
--is that this is something that our party--
CHUCK TODD:
We're not seeing--
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
--this year.
REINCE PRIEBUS:
That's not true. I
mean, when you can put John Boehner, Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, Tony
Perkins, and the Tea Party Express on the same page, which you have, as a
unified party, and as far as a wave is concerned, I don't know what
polls you're looking at. But if you look at Arkansas, you look at
Alaska, South Dakota, West Virginia, Louisiana, you go to Colorado,
you're seeing Republicans in the lead. So look, with a month out, I'd
much rather be where we're at than where the Democrats are at.
CHUCK TODD:
If you don't win the Senate, failure?
REINCE PRIEBUS:
I think we've got to win the Senate.
CHUCK TODD:
For the--
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
--election.
REINCE PRIEBUS:
Absolutely.
CHUCK TODD:
If you don't win the Senate, this is a bad election?
REINCE PRIEBUS:
I think so. Yeah, I
think that's fair. I think we've got to win the Senate. I think we will
win the Senate. The question for us is are we going to win with six,
seven, or eight seats? And I think that's what's up for grabs right now.
CHUCK TODD:
One of the things in here that you didn't mention, there's a lot of social issues. Why was that?
REINCE PRIEBUS:
Well, we did talk about a strong family, we did talk about life, and we talked about family--
CHUCK TODD:
It seems like you're nervous about it.
REINCE PRIEBUS:
Well--
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
Are social issues working against you guys?
REINCE PRIEBUS:
Have you read--
(OVERTALK)
REINCE PRIEBUS:
Not at all. If you read
the speech, we didn't hide away from social issues at all. But the fact
of the matter is is that people are out of work, the real unemployment
rate is at 11.8%. And whether you're in Laredo, Texas, or Peoria,
Illinois, the president's policies aren't working. And the president on
Friday, as you rightfully noted earlier in the show, said that his
policies are on the ballot. Well, of Barack Obama's on the ballot and
his policies are on the ballot, it's going to be a pretty bad year for
Democrats.
CHUCK TODD:
Unemployment's below 6%. How has that not the economy-- how can the Democrats say, "Hey, things are getting better."
REINCE PRIEBUS:
I think you guys
spelled it out pretty well when you had Mr. Pfeiffer on. From the real
unemployment rate, for the how many people are out of work, the labor
participation rate is at record lows. People today don't feel better off
than they were five years ago. And obviously, whether it's the GSA, the
IRS, Syria, Ebola, the Secret Service, I mean, what's going well in
regard to this administration and those senators that have followed this
president lockstep?
CHUCK TODD:
A court upheld a new
law in Texas. One of the things about the Republican party is you don't
like a lot of regulation on businesses, except if the business is a
abortion clinic. 80% of these abortion clinics in Texas are going to be
basically out of business because of this new law. Too much regulation,
is that fair? Why regulate on the abortion issue now until maybe the law
is-- and maybe wait until you win a fight in the Supreme Court where
you outlaw abortion altogether. Why restrict a business now in the state
of Texas?
REINCE PRIEBUS:
Well, you obviously
have to talk to someone in Texas. But the fact of the matter is that we
believe that any woman that's faced with an unplanned pregnancy deserves
compassion, respect, counseling, whatever it is that we can offer to
be--
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
But 80% of those clinics are gone. It's something that they have to drive 200 or 300 miles for that compassion?
REINCE PRIEBUS:
No, look, listen Chuck.
The issue for us is only one thing. And that's whether you ought to use
taxpayer money to fund abortion. That's the one issue that I think
separates this conversation that we're having. And so and the fact of
the matter is, what this election is going to come down to, and I think
we know it, is whether or not people feel better off today than they did
four or five years ago, whether these Democrat senators followed this
president lockstep, in spite of the fact that things aren't going in the
right direction, whether it be ObamaCare, jobs, the economy, Keystone
Pipeline, all of the above.
It's not working for
him. So you can try to steer, talking about abortion again. But the fact
of the matter is, if you're in Skagway, Alaska, you're thinking about
the fact of why my life isn't better off today than it was when this
senator was elected six years ago.
CHUCK TODD:
Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican party, we'll be watching. Thanks for coming on Meet the Press.
REINCE PRIEBUS:
You bet.
CHUCK TODD:
Welcome to our new set.
REINCE PRIEBUS:
Thank you.
CHUCK TODD:
Back to the panel, Joe,
Andrea, Gwen, and David. I want to put up this piece of sound we heard
from the president from that speech, you heard Reince Priebus just talk
about it. It was a pretty interesting comment that a lot of Republican
campaigns are pretty excited about. Here it is.
PRESIDENT OBAMA (ON TAPE):
I'm not on the ballot this fall. But make no mistake, these policies are on the ballot. Every single one of them.
CHUCK TODD:
Well, we posited it in,
first read that this would be in Republican ads on Friday morning. By
Friday afternoon, they're in Republican ads. Take a look at this one in
Kansas.
(BEGIN TAPE)
NARRATOR:
Now Barack Obama says--
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
I'm not on the ballot this fall. But make no mistake, these policies are on the ballot. Every single one of them.
NARRATOR:
Obama's candidate for senate in Kansas? Greg Orman. A vote for Greg Orman is a vote for the Obama agenda.
(END TAPE)
CHUCK TODD:
David Axelrod, you're not writing President Obama's speeches anymore, but if you were--
DAVID AXELROD:
No, I wouldn't put that line there.
CHUCK TODD:
Would you have? I was just going to say, you would not--
DAVID AXELROD:
No, I would not have.
But understand, if you read the speech, the context of the line was, the
thing he's pushing forward, minimum wage, pay equity, infrastructure,
and he said these are on the ballot. But the way, it was obvious when
you saw the speech that that was not the way--
CHUCK TODD:
You're an ad man.
(OVERTALK)
DAVID AXELROD:
That was going to--
CHUCK TODD:
That's all you--
(OVERTALK)
DAVID AXELROD:
It was a mistake. But
you know, fundamentally, the issue that he should be driving and the
Democratic party should be driving is forward looking, because the
problem is how are middle class people going to make a living in this
country, and what policies can we implement that can help? We ought to
have that debate.
CHUCK TODD:
Go ahead, Andrea.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
I'm not echoing Reince
Priebus because he is obviously partisan, and that's his job. But if you
look at The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The New York
Times, The Financial Times, all the reporting on the jobs data from
Friday reported that participation rate is at historic lows, decades
lows. 59% are involved in the labor force. That's just not a sustainable
look--
(OVERTALK)
ANDREA MITCHELL:
--have two Americas, we really do.
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
I'm going to get into that. Actually, I want to just--
DAVID AXELROD:
But that is a long-term trend.
ANDRE MITCHELL:
And it's not improving.
(OVERTALK)
DAVID AXELROD:
--said in the break,
everything doesn't have to be political. This is a problem for the
country, and it's been with us over a long period of time.
CHUCK TODD:
All right, Gwen--
(OVERTALK)
GWEN IFILL:
Every reporting also on
Friday about these jobs numbers show they were the lowest since 2008.
They showed that even though the job participation is dropping, that
it's hard to argue that things aren't better. The problem, and the
dilemma for the president, and we saw it, I don't know if he was
weighing that or not, but the problem with the president is he wants to
say, "Look, there is good news and I'm willing to run on that."
DAVID AXELROD:
The problem with Republicans though and the--
GWEN IFILL:
Except he's not running.
CHUCK TODD:
But I was just going to say, I want you to talk about, did he have a message?
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
No.
CHUCK TODD:
What did you think about these principles of--
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
Listen, Barack Obama is
not on the ballot. His issues may be on the ballot. But look at the
polls. His numbers are low. And yet, despite the fact they're low in
Kansas, you've got an independent candidate who's up by ten points.
Despite the fact they're low across the deep South. They're in the low
20s. Mary Landrieu's doing great. Not great, but she's doing much better
than she should be in Louisiana. Kay Hagan's doing much better than she
should be in North Carolina.
CHUCK TODD:
Is that because the Republicans don't have a message?
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
There is no message. And you know who's saying that? Republicans.
GWEN IFILL:
Scott Walker, among them.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
Yeah. If you don't like President Obama's healthcare plan, what's your healthcare plan?
CHUCK TODD:
What's the alternative. Right.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
If you don't like what Barack Obama's doing on jobs, how are you going to get people back to work?
(OVERTALK)
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
Nobody has those messages.
DAVID AXELROD:
He's trying to respond
to what is obvious, which is their standing is much lower than his
standing because of what you said. But you listen to their principles,
and it reminds me of the old Mayor Daley said, we have to rise to higher
and higher platitudes.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
You are so parched
CHUCK TODD:
All right, guys.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
It makes me sad, David Axelrod.
CHUCK TODD:
All right.
CHUCK TODD:
We're going to take
another pause. You guys are having fun this morning here. We'll pause.
President Obama has vowed American troops will not be sent to take on
ISIS. But are they already engaged? We're going to hear from an Iraq War
veteran who said that the so-called troops on the ground are already
there.
***Commercial Break***
CHUCK TODD:
And we are back. On
Friday, ISIS released another horrific video showing the beheading of
British charity worker Alan Henning. Then ISIS warned that an American
aid worker, Peter Kassig, could be next. Meanwhile, U.S. and coalition
air strikes against the terror group are continuing in both Syria and
Iraq. But ISIS is continuing to make advances, and of course those
threats.
Here at home, the
president has been clear. American combat troops will not be used to
take on ISIS. But Clay Hanna is not so sure. He wrote an op-ed piece in
Politico explaining why. Hanna is an Iraq War veteran who served from
2003 to 2008. Here's Clay Hanna in his own words.
CLAY HANNA:
I do not think that
there is honesty when the president, when leadership has been speaking
about how troops are being deployed. What's being said is that there are
no boots on the ground. And characterizing the efforts and service of
the military members that are deployed into the fight as something less
than being at war.
The truth is that they
are actively engaged in combat. At some point, ISIS is going to have a
success. And what the military success looks like for them is a dead
American soldier. We have a dangerous tendency to underestimate the
enemy and overestimate our allies and their capabilities. And I see us
making that exact same mistake now.
We need to clearly
identify who our friends are. When we give weapons and training to
people who we should not trust, people who we would not let on an
airplane out of our own airports. It's inevitable that down the road,
they will most likely turn against us. I want to see leadership in
Washington take responsibility for communicating clearly with the
American people. It is very personal. I feel like I have a
responsibility as a veteran to speak up and ensure that there is a
voice.
CHUCK TODD:
That was Iraq War
veteran Clay Hanna in his own words. Coming up, who better other react
to Clay Hanna's concerns than Jim Webb, former secretary of Navy and a
decorated Vietnam veteran who is considering a run for the Democratic
presidential nomination in 2016. Stay with us.
***Commercial Break***
CHUCK TODD:
And welcome back, now
to our Meet the Candidate series, sort of, this week I'm joined by Jim
Webb, who points out he's just a potential candidate for president in
2016. He certainly has a unique resume. Webb is a former Marine and
served in Vietnam where he won a Navy Cross for extraordinary heroism as
well as the Silver Star, two Bronze Stars, and two Purple Hearts.
In the '80s, he served
in the Reagan administration, as an assistant secretary of defense and
secretary of the navy. In 2006, he switched parties and was elected as a
Democratic senator from Virginia and served just one term before opting
not to seek reelection. He's also a successful author and screenwriter
and has written eight books over the years. And I do want to mention
that my wife helped Jim Webb in his 2006 Senate campaign. Senator Webb,
welcome back to Meet the Press.
JIM WEBB:
Good to be with you.
CHUCK TODD:
I want to actually
begin with any reaction you have to Clay Hanna, because how politicians
use phrases like "boots on the ground," and politicize the issues of
combat troops, that does have an impact on soldiers, doesn't it?
JIM WEBB:
Well, it doesn't. And
actually, just having watched the beginning of your show, I think it's
fair to say right now that we are at a crossroads as a nation in terms
of how we view ourselves, how we say these things to ourselves. And the
way that these issues are going to be resolved in the next couple of
years will affect us for a very long time.
And this is true in
domestic policy as well. When you see the arguments here about economic
fairness, the truth is that it really depends on where you're sitting in
this country. We've got a stock market that has almost tripled since
March of 2009.
CHUCK TODD:
You're feeling good?
JIM WEBB:
Yeah, exactly. If
you've got capital, you're feeling pretty good. But average salaries
have gone down, loans to small businesses have actually decreased. And
we have a criminal justice system that's embarrassing. And all of the
country should be focusing on that too. And in foreign policy, what
you're hearing from this former soldier is something that we're seeing a
lot of countrywide.
And that is that we
have not had a clear articulation of what American foreign policy is,
basically since the end of the Cold War. So when you're looking at
places like Iraq and Syria, you're seeing policies that can't be clearly
articulated.
CHUCK TODD:
You're basically saying that the president--
JIM WEBB:
And people--
CHUCK TODD:
You're basically saying President Obama doesn't have a foreign policy.
JIM WEBB:
I'm saying that in
terms of a clear doctrine, we have been lacking that for a very long
time. And it particularly impacts the Middle East. If you look at what's
going on right now, there are two data points I think that are
critical. The first was the decision by the Bush administration to
invade and occupy Iraq. Which empowered Iran and unleashed all the
sectarian violence. And then it was what I thought was a strategic, the
inadvisable strategy of the Arab Spring. And what has happened in Libya
as well as Syria as a result.
CHUCK TODD:
Well, the beginning of
the Arab Spring was actually in some ways Egypt. Was that a mistake? Was
the president getting involved in pushing Mubarak out the beginning of
the mistake that then turned to Libya, that then turned to Syria?
JIM WEBB:
I think what you were
seeing in Egypt and I was talking about it when it began was the first
rule of wing walking is make sure you've got a clear grasp on where
you're going before you leave where you are. This was accentuated in
Libya. I spoke very strongly against the notion that a president could
unilaterally conduct military operations in an area where we had no
treaties at work, we had no Americans under attack or at risk.
And you take a look at
the end result of Libya, are an enormous number of weapons that are
unaccountable, which are probably in Syria, and can you get to the
Tripoli airport today? And who's talking about that? Now if you take a
look at Syria, which is Syria and these other parts of Iraq, which is
what the former soldier was talking about, we now have a situation where
we're asking these freedom fighters, or whatever you want to call them,
who were going after Assad, to help us go after ISIS.
CHUCK TODD:
And it's not clear to you that they're going to do that. Is it?
JIM WEBB:
And the elements that
are fighting there are very fluid in terms of the people who declare
their alliances. I would be willing to bet that we had people at the top
of ISIS who actually have been trained by Americans at some point.
CHUCK TODD:
Let me move to your
potential political ambitions. Is there anybody else thinking about
running for president, that if they got in, you'd say, "You know what?
They're going to touch on these issues better than I am."
JIM WEBB:
You know, I'm really
not looking at that. What I'm trying to do is exactly the same thing
that I did when I was thinking about running for the Senate. And that is
to identify the issues that America needs to focus on and in order to
regain the trust of the American people.
And if you look at
these polls that you were showing, I think the people are way ahead of
their leaders. And they know we have these problems, that we're at a
crossroads. And they're very disappointed in the fact that the top
leaders in both parties have not been able to come together for the good
of the country to work to solve them.
CHUCK TODD:
You're inevitably going
to be compared to Hillary Clinton here. What's the contrast that you
think's fairest between you and Hillary Clinton?
JIM WEBB:
I'll leave that to other people to answer.
CHUCK TODD:
If people describe you as running to her left, what do you say?
JIM WEBB:
I believe in certain
principles that I put out. And whether they are to the left or to the
right doesn't matter to me. I don't change what I believe. This is what I
did when I ran for the Senate. And I'm very concerned about issues of
economic fairness, social justice. We worked on criminal justice reform.
Eight years ago we put two and a half years of hearings in it in the
Senate. I don't know whether that's to the left or to the right. It's a
leadership issue. It's not a political issue.
CHUCK TODD:
Is she a qualified president?
JIM WEBB:
We worked--
CHUCK TODD:
Do you think she's a qualified candidate to be president?
JIM WEBB:
We led on this to Asia,
which people talked about a lot for the Obama administration. We began
that two years before President Obama was elected. And I've been very
strong on different ways to deal with foreign policy.
CHUCK TODD:
You're smiling here. You don't want to talk about Hillary Clinton yet. Is that fair to say? You're not ready to talk about her?
JIM WEBB:
I don't think it's for
me to talk about Hillary Clinton. I enjoyed working with her when I was
in the Senate. I don't know what she's going to do, if she runs, what
she will run on. I'm just very concerned about these issues for the
country.
CHUCK TODD:
Very quickly, a few key
issues. Gay marriage. You were for civil unions, but not for legalized
gay marriage when you ran in 2006. Have you changed?
JIM WEBB:
I took some very tough
stands in '06. People will look back at the Virginia campaign. There was
a gay marriage amendment on the ballot, an anti-gay marriage amendment
on the ballot in Virginia. I've got a lot of family ties down in the far
Southwest, and I oppose that. And I'm really comfortable with where the
evolution has--
CHUCK TODD:
So you're not ready, so legal in some places, but not legal in others?
JIM WEBB:
I think this has been a good thing for the country.
CHUCK TODD:
Okay. Well, Jim Webb,
I'm going to leave it there. Former Democrat Senator from Virginia,
we'll be watching. Are you going to announce before the end of the year?
JIM WEBB:
Taking it one day at a time.
CHUCK TODD:
Fair enough. Up next,
the roads to economic recovery. We've been talking about a lot already
on the show. And guess what? It depends where you live. If you live near
an interstate, that may be the best way to have a good, personal
economic future.
***Commercial Break***
PRESIDENT OBAMA (ON TAPE):
So it is indisputable
that our economy is stronger today than when I took office. It's also
indisputable that millions of Americans don't yet feel enough of the
benefits of a growing economy where it matters most. And that's in their
own lives.
CHUCK TODD:
Well, that was
President Obama this week touting his administration's policies and
those of his fellow Democrats on the ballot in November. Well, let's do a
little reality check here. While the unemployment rate has been
steadily dropping, signaling a strengthening economy, as we saw with
Friday’s jobs reports. There are still many Americans that aren't
feeling it. So why?
Well, because the road
to recovery is taking different routes. And that could mean trouble for
Democrats in November. Let me show you another graphic and a map. Along
the major interstates running north to south in the U.S., the fives,
communities close to those highways are in the economic fast lane. These
are the mostly urban areas that do favor Democrats, where economies are
thriving and people are actually heading back into the job market at a
rapid pace.
Much more rapidly than
in rural America, farther away from those interstates. In fact, take a
look right here in Washington D.C., along the I-95 corridor. From July
2010 to July 2014, the unemployment rate dropped nearly two points. And
35,000 more people felt encouraged enough to actually go into the job
market.
150 miles to the
southeast though, in rural Gloucester County, Virginia, the unemployment
rate also dropped less than a point. But that was simply because nearly
1,200 fewer people are actually out there looking for work. Let's go to
I-35 in Iowa, in Polk County, home to Des Moines. Not only was there a
drop in the unemployment rate of two points, but 4,700 more people
actually are in the job market.
That's a sign of a
strengthening local economy. But in more rural Benton County, population
just over 2,600, their drop in the unemployment rate of nearly two
points wasn't good news because nearly a thousand people stopped looking
for jobs in that county. Let's go farther west. 2,000 miles away in
Utah, along I-15, the unemployment rate dropped three points in Salt
Lake County, and 38,000 more people actually joined the job market.
But in Carbon County,
two hours west of I-15, that drop in the unemployment rate of nearly
three points was simply because fewer people stopped looking for work.
This uneven economic recovery is the reason why Democrats are up for
reelection this year in mostly rural states. Think Mark Pryor, Arkansas,
Mary Landrieu in Louisiana.
They can't run on the
president's economic message, because their voters in their states
aren't seeing the economy bounce back as quickly as those areas that are
along those I-5 corridors. Bottom line is that this could be another
reason why Republicans feel so confident in retaking the Senate this
fall. Of course, should they be that confident? I've got brand new poll
numbers in three big states coming up after the break. There could be a
speed bump on the Republican road to control of the Senate.
***Commercial Break***
CHUCK TODD:
And welcome back. I've
got the panel back. And we have some new midterm polls to chew over.
Three of the four states that I think matter the most, North Carolina,
Iowa, Kansas, and Alaska, I think this is going to determine. Here's our
new numbers in North Carolina. Hagan up four points, the Democrat
there, 44-40, about where Republicans are concerned where that race is
slipping away.
Look at Iowa here, Joni
Ernst, a very narrow margin of error type of lead here, two points,
46-40, 44. If she wins, first ever woman ever elected to Congress from
the state of Iowa. But here is the speed bump. Look at this, Kansas. Pat
Roberts, a Republican, not even cracking 40%. Greg Orman, the
independent, up ten points. This is the shocker, Gwen Ifill, plus ten.
This is the speed bump to the Republican road.
GWEN IFILL:
And Chuck, we know you
love your speed bumps. You hate it when it all goes the way it's
supposed to go. This is surprising. But it's surprising that he's an
independent. And therefore what we see is Pat Roberts pushing back
saying, "He's not really an independent, he's--"
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
Well, let me tell you,
Greg Orman, our own Kelly O'Donnell went and interviewed him in Kansas,
asked him about this issue, who are you, who are you caucus with, listen
to his answer.
(BEGIN TAPE)
KELLY O'DONNELL:
So you can envision switching which party you'd work with once you were there?
GREG ORMAN:
Sure. And ultimately,
again, this is about solving problems. This is about the voters of
Kansas saying the status quo doesn't work anymore.
(END TAPE)
CHUCK TODD:
There you go, Andrea.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
It's classic. He's an
outsider, he says he's independent. And the fact that Pat Roberts
ignored all the warning, ignored what happened to Dick Lugar, you have
to live in the state. You have to have residency.
CHUCK TODD:
It's a minimum requirement?
(OVERTALK)
ANDREA MITCHELL:
Talk about the hatred of Washington.
(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
And by the way, Joe, we know that Kansas has other issues. Sam Brownback is in a tough reelection fight.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
A problem, yeah.
CHUCK TODD:
But listen to this, 20%
of Orman's voters are Brownback voters. Robertson's problems aren't
Brownback's problems. They're different.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
You know, the message
is coming out of this campaign, and it's a message that the smart
politicians should take up, it's about what works. Forget about
ideology. George W. Bush was ideological going into Iraq. Barack Obama
was ideological coming out of Iraq. There are people on both sides that
will debate both of those contentions. The question is, what works?
That's a strong
message. And Republicans should be concerned. Your numbers in North
Carolina should cause concern. I will say even if we're only up, we the
Republican party, only up by two points in Iowa with such a weak
Democratic candidate, this is far from over. And all these people say
Republicans are going to take the majority, I would like to know what
polls they're looking at. It's too early.
CHUCK TODD:
But David here's the
thing, success for the Democrats is, "Hey, we only lost five seats and
Republicans blew one in Kansas." That's not a great message for the
Democrats.
DAVID AXELROD:
Well, no. But when you
look at the structure of this year with all the exposure Democrats have
in states that Romney carried over Obama, it would be good just to
survive. Iowa's going to be, to me, the tie breaker.
CHUCK TODD:
The tipping point.
DAVID AXELROD:
And Democrats are excited about one thing, which is early ballot requests.
CHUCK TODD:
And mail ballots.
DAVID AXELROD:
150,000, half of them for Democrats--
CHUCK TODD:
Brown versus--
(OVERTALK)
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
Listen, I hate to be negative about the Republican party, but if the Republican party doesn't win in 2014, 2016 is bleak--
(OVERTALK)
DAVID AXELROD:
And top party leaders have been saying that as well.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
To Reince Priebus's credit, to Reince Priebus's credit, he said that--
ANDREA MITCHELL:
He said that.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
Not getting the Senate is a loss this year for the Republican party.
DAVID AXELROD:
They've got to win...
CHUCK TODD:
That's it for today. We'll be back next week because if it's Sunday, it's Meet the Press.
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on the responsibility of the Nevada Libertarian Party
nominated Common Sense Fresh Start Politics of Prosperity Constitutional Campaign for US Representative in Las Vegas District 1.
Join the campaign for Constitutional Government with more Justice, Life, Liberty, Peace and Prosperity for All.
Compra Los Documentos Fundadores EstadoUnidenses en el Espanol, aqui':
https://www.createspace.com/4677401
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IX3Q5I2
http://www.amazon.com/Project-Fresh-Start-Politics-Prosperity/dp/149213452X
Get the campaign eBook here:
http://www.amazon.com/Project-Fresh-Start-Politics-Prosperity-ebook/dp/B00ENPP7WE
Register to vote (Libertarian) in Las Vegas here by Saturday 4 October 2014:
http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/depts/election/pages/registertovote.aspx
https://nvsos.gov/sosvoterservices/Registration/step1.aspx
http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/depts/election/pages/registertovote.aspx
https://nvsos.gov/sosvoterservices/Registration/step1.aspx
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