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Meet the Press Transcript - September 21, 2014
PRESIDENT OBAMA (ON TAPE):
I will not commit you and the rest of our armed forces to fighting another ground war in Iraq.
SEN. JAMES INHOFE (ON TAPE):
This notion that we’re not having boots on the ground that the president keeps saying is just not true...
CHUCK TODD:
Last week, the House and
Senate voted resoundingly to approve funding for the so-called moderate
Syrian rebels...the country’s most senior general, Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff, suggested that American troops might be needed on the
ground...
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA:
These American forces will not have a combat mission...I will not commit you and the rest of our armed forces to fighting another ground war in Iraq.
SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM:
There is no way in hell we are going to beat these guys without an American ground component in Iraq and Syria.
JOHN KERRY:
U.S. ground troops will not be sent into combat in this conflict.
ROBERT GATES:
So there will be boots on the ground if there’s to be any hope of success in the strategy.
SUSAN RICE:
Our strategy does not involve U.S. troops on the ground in a combat role.
CHUCK TODD:
Let me start with this
issue of combat troops. And yes, there's been what appears to be a
debate between the military leaders and the civilian leaders. Your job
as ambassador to United Nations, you're trying to build a coalition.
Secretary Kerry's trying to build a coalition. You tweeted this on
Friday, "Huge outpouring of support now at U.N. Security Council for
U.S.-Led effort to support fight against ISIL." What countries in this
coalition have committed combat troops to fight in Syria? Have any of
them done it yet?...
CHUCK TODD:
Right...
SAMANTHA POWER:
We are not having problems getting countries to commit...
CHUCK TODD:
Well, let's talk about
this moderate opposition in Syria. I'm a little confused at who we're
training them to fight. All week long, the president says we're training
them to fight ISIS. But a year ago, the idea was to train the moderate
Syrians to fight Assad. Are we training them to fight ISIS? Are we
training them to fight Assad? Who are we training them to fight?...
I know the president believes he already has the legal justification to go after ISIS inside of Syria's borders...
SAMANTHA POWER:
CHUCK TODD:
There's a big headline
in The Washington Post this morning about, basically, more chaos in
Libya, some assassins in Benghazi. The back and forth has been going
back there, the fight, to sort of control Libya. What's the lesson
learned on the United States' intervention in Libya, in hindsight now,
for you, when you're applying it to sort of how we're dealing in Syria?
We left a vacuum in Libya. And now there's chaos in Libya. How do you
prevent that from happening in Syria?...
SAMANTHA POWER:
What is very important, and the key, again, to stability
over time, is national institutions, national actors, taking ownership
of the stability of their countries. And that's, again, why this
investment in the moderate opposition in Syria is so important...
CHUCK TODD:
All right, very quickly, more dysfunctional, United Nations or the U.S. Congress?
SAMANTHA POWER:
No comment. I'm a diplomat. (LAUGHTER)...
CHUCK TODD:
Morning. Murphy, let me start with you. Why did you vote against the president's request to arm these rebels?...
SEN. CHRIS MURPHY:
The question is whether getting involved in a
very complicated, sectarian civil war in Syria is necessary...The reality is that, over the last year, these so-called moderate rebels
have been openly coordinating with Jabhat al Nusra, which is a wing of
al-Qaeda. It is likely an impossibility that they can effectively fight
on two fronts against both Assad and against ISIS...the risk is that the United States begins getting involved in what may
be a very long-term commitment to a messy civil war inside Syria...
CHUCK TODD:
Iraq, we've spent billions of
dollars and years training Iraq, and the first time ISIS came, they were
all over...
SEN. RON JOHNSON:
Well Chuck, first of
all, we have to recognize reality. And if you want to see what is going
to happen in the future, you have to look to the past. And, you know,
we've had testifying before our committee, and I've been talking to
people behind the scenes, that were involved in the 2007 surge. And back
then, we were fighting six to 8,000 members of al-Qaeda in Iraq. And
that's basically what--
CHUCK TODD:
Basically what ISIS is now--
SEN. RON JOHNSON:
Right...
CHUCK TODD:
Senator Murphy, you
heard the question I had to Samantha Power about the-- Ambassador Power
about this issue of a vacuum in Libya. We were successful with the
campaign to get rid of Gaddafi. And then, with nothing there, chaos has
ensued. How do you prevent that from happening in Syria?...
SEN. CHRIS MURPHY:
we've been at war with this Islamic terror since 1993. We have to recognize it. We can't bury our head in the sands on this...what we've learned is that whenever we kill an extremist, whenever we
take out the number two, it seems like another one or two more take
their place...Saudi Arabia is not leading this coalition, the United States is leading
this coalition. And that really is going to be the key as to whether
this is ultimately successful...
CHUCK TODD:
There are-- weird
transition here. But there are three different bills trying to take away
the NFL's tax exempt status. I know where you stand on this. You want
to see the NFL lose its tax exempt status. Senator Johnson, where are
you on this?
SEN. RON JOHNSON:
--I'm not even thinking about it...
CHUCK TODD:
the father of NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.
SEN. ROGER GOODELL:
Because Congress has
permitted its power to be to be eroded completely in this area and we've
let the president do anything he wants to and the constitution does not
give the president the power to declare war. Only congress has that.
CHUCK TODD:
44 years ago and that debate is actually still raging...
ADMIRAL MIKE MULLEN:
NEERA TANDEN:
Oh, there's a lot of
anxiety about what the President's trying to do in the Middle East,
right? And I think what's energizing it is an anxi-- you know, people
are really haunted by the last Iraq war. And the truth is we put a lot
of boots on the ground, and it had a really negative repercussion.
(CHUCKLE)...
CHUCK TODD:
--anxiety. Iraq fatigue. It's the new Vietnam fatigue, isn't it?
JOHN STANTON:
Well, yeah...
AMY WALTER:
I know we said there's not just politics
involved, but there obviously is a lot of politics. The fact this is
happening 40 days before an election is important to remember, in that,
if you're a Democrat right now and you wanted to make this election
about the issue which you are strongest on--...
RAMESH PONNURU:
Well, you know--
terrorism was one of the remaining advantages that President Obama had
where he was weighted with a pretty good job approval. And that
advantage has now collapsed in the CBS New York Times poll out this
week. I think they're in a very precarious position...
JANE REA:
It takes time for the free market to grow. It's the right direction...
GROVER NORQUIST:
in the 30 states with
Republican governors, in the last four years, they cut taxes over $30
billion. The Democrat states, the 20 Democrat states, they raised taxes
$40 billion...the people who are losing are guys like Illinois, Democrat, who's raised taxes too much in the state, and maybe Republican governor who also raised taxes in Pennsylvania...
But the reason why the
entire left in the country has jumped on top of Kansas is they provided
the model, a successful model, that will phase out the income tax. Why?
Because when revenue comes in--...--it goes towards reducing the income tax....
they've had 57,000 jobs in the private sector created in Kansas...
there are 191,000 small businesses
in that state, many in the rural areas, who basically have their
corporate income tax, their business income tax, taken to zero.
too much government...
JOHN STANTON:
You know, Grover, you
know, you've done a great job of getting folks...to be ideologically pure on taxes. But that purity has come at a cost, which is now we look at Congress, tax reform is probably not going to get done for several years, immigrant reform, all these other issues...
GROVER NORQUIST:
Oh. Well, I'm always
willing to compromise, which means moving towards freedom less rapidly
than I'd like to. What the pledge did (CHUCKLE) was stop a $1.4 trillion
tax increase--...--that Obama wanted--...
CHUCK TODD:
Up next, control of
the U.S. Senate, is it really being decided by Starbucks and
Chick-Fil-A's? Actually, yes, it is. Caffeine versus chicken...In one corner, it's Starbucks Nation. These are Democrats that live in the big cities, adjacent suburbs, lots of Starbucks. In the other corner, it's Chick-Fil-A country. Basically, Republicans that live in the areas between suburban America and rural America. We call them the exurbs. It's also another way of saying small town America...
In 2012, the presidential battleground map favored Democrats. And here's why. 36% of people that lived in those battleground states were in the cities, or those close-in suburbs close to the cities. 20% lived in those Republicans strongholds, the exurbs, more rural America. This year, the numbers are completely reversed. Only a fifth of the population in this Senate battleground map live in urban areas. While it's 36% that live in those communities that are favorable to Republicans, in the exurbs...
This year, it's the Republican edge. The GOP is almost certain to pick up states in Chick-Fil-A country, Montana, South Dakota and West Virginia. Don't forget, they have Arkansas, Louisiana here...
Election will be determined between the big cities and rural America...
Coming up in half a minute, the strategy Democrats are trying to use the hold the Senate that has never worked in the past. So why are they trying it again?...
With President Obama's approval
ratings continuing to sit at or even below 40%, Democrats who face the
voters in a matter of weeks aren't just walking away from the president,
they're running and gunning away. Just this week, Kentucky Democratic
Senate hopeful Allison Grimes was out with this ad.
ALISON LUNDERGAN GRIMES (TAPE):
I’m not Barack Obama...
CHUCK TODD:
And a parade of Democrats are following this practice...
NARRATOR (TAPE):
He [Mark Begich] took on Obama.
MARK PRYOR (TAPE):
I’m not gonna invite anyone from out of state.
MARY LANDRIEU (TAPE):
This administration’s policies are simply wrong.
NATALIE TENNANT (TAPE):
I’ll make sure President Obama gets the message.
CHUCK TODD:
And when the president
has shown up in these states, Democrats are suddenly finding themselves
busy and making it clear Obama does not want to see them.
MARK UDALL (TAPE):
The White House, when they look down the front lawn, the last person they want to see coming is me.
CHUCK TODD:
Okay, Mark Udall. Anyway, don't laugh too loud there...
RAMESH PONNURU:
It's a strategy that's always tempting and never works...And Mark Udall is trying to distance himself. And the reason is Obama, in the latest poll in Colorado, 36% approval...
NEERA TANDEN:
--look, I think there
are-- there's a dissatisfaction in the country, right? And
unfortunately, the president is facing that and feeling that. And people
are taking at it against him. But there are also, look, it's not like
the Republican brand is doing so well...
It's really a problem of two parties. And it's an anti-Washington mode, mood, not just anti-Obama...
JOHN STANTON:
True. Although, again,
like with Joe Biden, he's sort of media crack, right? I mean he goes out
there, he says all this crazy stuff. And he's sort of hilarious. And
people look at him, you know, like, "What is going on with this guy?"...
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