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Meet the Press Transcript - October 5, 2014
CHUCK TODD:
This Sunday on Meet the Press, America is on edge. Ebola's been diagnosed on U.S. soil for the first time.
DR. IRWIN REDLENER:
The country is absolutely not ready for a large-scale epidemic.
CHUCK TODD:
The head of the secret service had to resign after a series of blunders that compromised the security of a president...
CHUCK TODD:
Has our government got a
grip on all of these challenges facing the country. And can President
Obama keep his promise about combat troops?
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
I won't commit our troops to fighting another ground war in Iraq or in Syria.
CHUCK TODD:
We're going to hear from an Iraq War veteran who thinks he's already broken it.
CLAY HANNA:
The truth is that they are actively engaged in combat...
BRIAN WILLIAMS:
The highest alert. The CDC has now increased the emergency response to the Ebola epidemic.
CHUCK TODD (V/O):
This outbreak is the
largest in history, causing the president to send U.S. military
personnel in an attempt to control the spread of the virus.
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
We have to act fast. We can't dawdle on this one...
LESTER HOLT:
It's an unbelievable scene as a man jumps over a fence.
CHUCK TODD (V/O):
A man able to penetrate one of the most protected places in the country.
KRISTEN WELKER:
No one has ever gotten all the way through the front door, just behind me.
SCOTT PELLEY:
Worse than we knew.
BRIAN WILLIAMS:
Turns out, he got deep inside the mansion before being stopped...
CHUCK TODD (V/O):
an email confirming that another American is being held by ISIS. And a
White House realizing they needed to reassure a frightened public...Ebola has left Africa and walked into a Dallas hospital... CDC laying out a worst-case scenario, which could see 1.4 million infected by the end of the year...
Earlier this month, President Obama told me that only the U.S. could
lead the fight against the virus. And more than 3,000 American troops
are being deployed to West Africa in order to help with these relief
efforts and build makeshift hospitals. But it's important to note only
one case has been diagnosed in the U.S. so far...
Thomas Eric Duncan tested positive in Dallas after traveling to the U.S.
from Liberia. His condition was downgraded yesterday from serious to
critical. And of course, here at NBC, we've been impacted. On Thursday,
Ashoka Mukpo, a freelance cameraman, who had been working with our chief
medical correspondent, Dr. Nancy Snyderman in Liberia, was diagnosed
with Ebola...
She of course will quarantine herself for up to three weeks. I'm joined
now by Dr. Tom Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control...
DR. TOM FRIEDEN:
just restoring the patient's fluid balance can save a lot of lives. And
in Africa, we're seeing some of those makeshift hospitals providing
that good fluid care that's doubling survival rates there...
The bottom line here is we know how to stop it. It's not going to spread
widely in the U.S. for two basic reasons. We can do infection control
in hospitals and we can do public health interventions that stop it in
its tracks.
We do that by identifying every possible contact, monitoring them for 21
days, and if they get any symptoms, isolating and monitoring them as
well. That's how you stop Ebola. That's how we've stopped every
outbreak. In fact, just this past week, we reported on our experience
helping Nigeria stop their importation of Ebola...
I don't think we're going to see a huge number of Ebola patients, or even concerns for Ebola patients...
DAN PFEIFFER:
With, I think the first
thing we need to do is make sure that the American people understand
how hard it is to contract Ebola...
We've been preparing for this eventuality since
the outbreak in West Africa started seven months ago...
CHUCK TODD:
Why though, I guess go
back to the question...
I think this is a public that is very
fearful right now, because you say one thing here, and then all of a
sudden, Ebola walked into a Dallas hospital...
So you may do more?
DAN PFEIFFER:
No, I think we are
going to look and make sure everything is working...we're very confident in the procedures we have in place...
CHUCK TODD:
I think one of your
challenges though is a trust deficit that has been created over the last
18 months. I want to put up a graphic, whether you believe it's fair or
not, it is a fact about all the different sort of government gaps over
the last 18 months. Edward Snowden stealing NSA files, the VA faking
wait times, IRS losing emails, healthcare.gov doesn't launch.
The president himself
saying, "U.S. intelligence agencies underestimated ISIS." The DHS, the
border failure with that surge over the summer, sort of failure, and of
course, the secret service. Why should we trust that what you're saying
about the CDC is able to handle this?...
DAN PFEIFFER:
Look, I do understand
that people have had a growing skepticism of institutions for a long
time, including government. But people should know that everyone in the
situations you mentioned, where a problem arises, we deal with it. We
deal with it quickly, we deal with it forcefully to make sure it doesn't
happen...
Let's take one example that got a lot of attention over the summer,
which is the surge at the Southwestern border. That was a problem that
came. We brought to bear every resource possible to do it. And this
month, crossings at the borders are less than they were this time last
year--...
CHUCK TODD:
I'll give you, there always is a good reaction. Ebola needs to be pro-action...
SEN. RAND PAUL (ON TAPE):
You also have to be
concerned about 3,000 soldiers getting back on a ship. Where is disease
most transmittable? When you're in very close confines on a ship. We all
know about cruises and how they get these diarrhea viruses that are
transmitted very easily and the whole ship gets sick. Can you imagine if
a whole ship full of our soldiers catch Ebola?...
DAN PFEIFFER:
It's a concern that is
being dealt with and we're prepared to deal with. People will be
screened appropriately, we'll make sure that doesn't happen...
CHUCK TODD:
Well, there's a lot of public officials that are skeptical and nervous about this...
CHUCK TODD:
I'm going to shift to
the secret service here. When the White House decided, when the
president decided to hire Director Pierson, did you guys rush? Did you
vet her properly?...
DAN PFEIFFER:
Obviously, what had happened over the last several weeks here made it
clear we needed to take another direction...
CHUCK TODD:
Turned out she was the wrong hire, right?
DAN PFEIFFER:
Turned out we needed a new direction...
CHUCK TODD:
I'll ask you about the
president's speech in Chicago this week. There's one way to read it is
that he was declaring victory here on his agenda, that he believes he's
got a successful-- is that a way to look at it? That basically it
worked? "Hey, my policies were right. Look at this. Everything is
great."...
DAN PFEIFFER:
he said very clearly
that we have more work to do because too much of the benefits of that
growth is not being showed broadly enough on the middle class...
CHUCK TODD:
He said, "We're better
off now than we were before." But the direction of the country, the
public, nearly 70% of the public thinks we're heading down the wrong--...
A big disconnect here...
What you've heard from Dr. Frieden and Dan Pfeiffer, you feel any better than you did Friday?
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
No, I don't feel better. And I don't think most Americans feel better...The World Health Organization has been dismal. They've ignored all of the warning signs...
a lot of Americans are seeing what happened in Dallas and looking at your laundry list, what happened with the secret service, what happened with the IRS, what happened with the VA, what happened with ISIS being a JV team. So when anybody, any member of the government says, "Hey, just relax, everything's going to be okay," Americans don't believe that...
ANDREA MITCHELL:
And in fact, it's that
laundry list, it's more and worse here, because in Dallas, look what
happened. The man comes into the ER, he tells a nurse he was in West
Africa, in Liberia, they initially blame it on a computer system where
the nurse doesn't call the ER doctor...
Now they acknowledge it wasn't the computer system at all, that the
doctor on the case had the same information. People are not
communicating. And this is after we were told by the government, by the
CDC, by the White House, that doctors and hospitals around the country
were prepared...
they now believe if they go to a small number, four main airports, they can get about 75% of the people coming in...
CHUCK TODD:
JFK, Dulles, O'Hare, Newark...
ANDREA MITCHELL:
You cannot trust people to be asked a questionnaire at the port of departure in Africa...
GWEN IFILL:
It's one thing for the U.S. to say, "We're going to send all of these mobile military hospitals to set up in Monrovia." But it turns out, there's no infrastructure there to get them set up...
CHUCK TODD:
Well, and obviously we have a math issue...
DAVID AXELROD:
Tom Frieden, Tony Fauci
at the NIH, these are public health professionals of world-class
standing. They have no motivation to mislead the American people...
CHUCK TODD:
I brought up flu season for a
reason, because the symptoms are almost identical. And we could see a
total crush on that system...
I've got the head of the Republican National Committee here, Reince
Priebus...
I'm going to
ask him the reasons why we're not seeing signs of a wave for the GOP...
Republicans are hoping for a Beach Boys kind of November. Catch a wave
and you're sitting on top of the world. But so far, that wave not really
in sight...
Thursday, my next guest, Reince Priebus, played out what he called the
GOP's principles for American renewal ahead of the midterms. But those
principles are nothing like the clear message the party offered in 1994,
when Newt Gingrich's Contract with America led to a Republican sweep...
Karl Rove said it was very well poll-tested language. Preserve, value,
and honor the constitution, grow the economy, balance budget amendment,
healthcare reform, improve veterans’ access to healthcare, strong
military, equal educational opportunity, improve the job market, value
family life, religious liberty, hard work, energy independence,
immigration including secure borders and uphold the law...
But there's no policy here. No policy connected to this. Why?...
We call for a balanced budget amendment, that's policy. We call for
school choice, that's policy. We call for the president adhering to the
constitution and not violating the law and not abiding by what we call
the Separation of Powers Act in the constitution. I think if you go back
and look at the Contract with America, you'll see it'll say welfare
reform--...
when you can put John Boehner, Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, Tony Perkins, and the Tea Party Express on the same page...
CHUCK TODD:
If you don't win the Senate, failure?...
REINCE PRIEBUS:
I think we've got to win the Senate...
CHUCK TODD:
If you don't win the Senate, this is a bad election?
REINCE PRIEBUS:
I think so...
I think we will win the Senate. The question for us is are we going to win with six, seven, or eight seats?...
CHUCK TODD:
One of the things in here that you didn't mention, there's a lot of social issues. Why was that?
REINCE PRIEBUS:
Well, we did talk about a strong family, we did talk about life, and we talked about family--...
CHUCK TODD:
Are social issues working against you guys?...
REINCE PRIEBUS:
the fact of the matter is that people are out of work, the real
unemployment rate is at 11.8%.
And whether you're in Laredo, Texas, or
Peoria, Illinois, the president's policies aren't working.
And the
president on Friday, as you rightfully noted earlier in the show, said
that his policies are on the ballot.
Well, if Barack Obama's on the
ballot and his policies are on the ballot, it's going to be a pretty bad
year for Democrats...
the labor participation rate is at record lows.
People today don't feel
better off than they were five years ago.
And obviously, whether it's
the GSA, the IRS, Syria, Ebola, the Secret Service, I mean, what's going
well in regard to this administration and those senators that have
followed this president lockstep?...
CHUCK TODD:
A court upheld a new
law in Texas. One of the things about the Republican party is you don't
like a lot of regulation on businesses, except if the business is a
abortion clinic. 80% of these abortion clinics in Texas are going to be
basically out of business because of this new law...
REINCE PRIEBUS:
The issue for us is only one thing. And that's whether you ought to use
taxpayer money to fund abortion...things aren't going in the right direction, whether it be ObamaCare, jobs, the economy, Keystone Pipeline...
NARRATOR:
Obama's candidate for senate in Kansas? Greg Orman. A vote for Greg Orman is a vote for the Obama agenda...
DAVID AXELROD:
It was a mistake...ANDREA MITCHELL:
The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Financial Times, all the reporting on the jobs data from Friday reported that participation rate is at historic lows, decades lows. 69% are involved in the labor force...
We have two Americas, we really do...
CHUCK TODD:
did he have a message?
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
No...
Barack Obama is not on the ballot. His issues may be on the ballot. But
look at the polls. His numbers are low. And yet, despite the fact
they're low in Kansas, you've got an independent candidate who's up by
ten points...
DAVID AXELROD:
it reminds me of the old Mayor Daley said, we have to rise to higher and higher platitudes.
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
You are so parched...
It makes me sad, David Axelrod...
CHUCK TODD:
President Obama has vowed American troops will not be sent to take on
ISIS. But are they already engaged? We're going to hear from an Iraq War
veteran who said that the so-called troops on the ground are already
there...
Hanna is an Iraq War veteran who served from 2003 to 2008...
CLAY HANNA:
I do not think that
there is honesty when the president, when leadership has been speaking
about how troops are being deployed. What's being said is that there are
no boots on the ground...The truth is that they are actively engaged in combat. At some point, ISIS is going to have a success. And what the military success looks like for them is a dead American soldier. We have a dangerous tendency to underestimate the enemy and overestimate our allies and their capabilities. And I see us making that exact same mistake now...
When we give weapons and training to people who we should not trust, people who we would not let on an airplane out of our own airports. It's inevitable that down the road, they will most likely turn against us...
CHUCK TODD:
And welcome back, now
to our Meet the Candidate series, sort of, this week I'm joined by Jim
Webb, who points out he's just a potential candidate for president in
2016. He certainly has a unique resume. Webb is a former Marine and
served in Vietnam where he won a Navy Cross for extraordinary heroism as
well as the Silver Star, two Bronze Stars, and two Purple Hearts...
In the '80s, he served in the Reagan administration, as an assistant
secretary of defense and secretary of the navy. In 2006, he switched
parties and was elected as a Democratic senator from Virginia and served
just one term before opting not to seek reelection. He's also a
successful author and screenwriter and has written eight books over the
years...
JIM WEBB:
it's
fair to say right now that we are at a crossroads as a nation in terms
of how we view ourselves, how we say these things to ourselves. And the
way that these issues are going to be resolved in the next couple of
years will affect us for a very long time...
average salaries have gone down, loans to small businesses have actually
decreased. And we have a criminal justice system that's embarrassing...
we have not had a clear articulation of what American foreign policy is,
basically since the end of the Cold War.
So when you're looking at
places like Iraq and Syria, you're seeing policies that can't be clearly
articulated...
CHUCK TODD:
You're basically saying President Obama doesn't have a foreign policy.
JIM WEBB:
I'm saying that in
terms of a clear doctrine, we have been lacking that for a very long
time. And it particularly impacts the Middle East.
If you look at what's
going on right now, there are two data points I think that are
critical. The first was the decision by the Bush administration to
invade and occupy Iraq. Which empowered Iran and unleashed all the
sectarian violence.
And then it was what I thought was a strategic, the
inadvisable strategy of the Arab Spring. And what has happened in Libya
as well as Syria as a result...
take a look at the end result of Libya, are an enormous number of weapons that are unaccountable...
I would be willing to bet that we had people at the top of ISIS who actually have been trained by Americans at some point...
identify the issues that America needs to focus on and in order to regain the trust of the American people...
if you look at these polls that you were showing, I think the people
are way ahead of their leaders. And they know we have these problems,
that we're at a crossroads.
And they're very disappointed in the fact
that the top leaders in both parties have not been able to come together
for the good of the country to work to solve them...
PRESIDENT OBAMA (ON TAPE):
So it is indisputable
that our economy is stronger today than when I took office. It's also
indisputable that millions of Americans don't yet feel enough of the
benefits of a growing economy where it matters most. And that's in their
own lives...
CHUCK TODD:
This uneven economic recovery is the reason why Democrats are up for
reelection this year in mostly rural states. Think Mark Pryor, Arkansas,
Mary Landrieu in Louisiana...
Look at this, Kansas. Pat Roberts, a Republican, not even cracking 40%. Greg Orman, the independent, up ten points...
GREG ORMAN:
this is about solving problems. This is about the voters of
Kansas saying the status quo doesn't work anymore...
ANDREA MITCHELL:
It's classic. He's an
outsider, he says he's independent. And the fact that Pat Roberts
ignored all the warning, ignored what happened to Dick Lugar, you have
to live in the state. You have to have residency...
Talk about the hatred of Washington...
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
The question is, what works?...
Listen, I hate to be negative about the Republican party, but if the Republican party doesn't win in 2014, 2016 is bleak--...
Not getting the Senate is a loss this year for the Republican party...
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